When those deadly sins surface
and you is all there is
focus those energies to create beauty,
even if it`s a black self portrait
or a death poem,
even if it means pulling your hair out
or screaming the house down
or being alone for a month,
just do it with beauty
because the purest beauty exists
within the understanding
of what we cannot know
not within the acceptance
of what we think we do
The world is cruel, unfair and shitty,
It`s ignorant to expect it to be otherwise
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I love the matter-of-fact tone in this piece.
The bluntness.
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This is definitely one of my favorites. There is A LOT of apparent depth to this poem. I love love love,
because the purest beauty exists
within the understanding
of what we cannot know
not within the acceptance
of what we think we do
I love this poem. I don't know what else I could say. But if I keep typing I'm going to start sounding stupid. Soooo.
I LOVE this poem.
Enough said.
language: 5, rhythm: 5, subject: 5, tone: 5, form: 5.
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hey sky,im delighted you picked up on the matter-of-fact tone,i belive that if you try to write something philosophical it can only work if its written matter-of-factly otherwise its just an opinion and as Plato said,"an opinion is the medium between ignorance and understanding"
see you later kitten
rhet
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ah, i must agree with you. i love the bleak pessimism (i'm sure you'd expect this)
Nothing is beautiful, only man: on this piece of naivete rests all aesthetics, it is the first truth of aesthetics. Let us immediately add its second: nothing is ugly but degenerate man - the domain of aesthetic judgment is therewith defined.
-Nietzsche
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thank you Ryan,it puts me off writing when i read people like Plato,Nietzsche and the rest of these feckers because they are so damn good that they leave nothing left for us wankers to write about...
all the best
rhet
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Interesting.
I really like this. I especially like, "Because the purist beauty exists within the understand of what we cannot know, not within the acceptance of what we think we do." I'm not one to usually criticize peoples' grammar and whatnot, but it should probably be "purest". Lol. Really, I value the ideas and overall flow of a poem rather than its minute tinkerings and nitpicks.
But anyway, I like the message here. It's got that more modern sense of finding beauty in flaws, and vice versa. In response to your ideas of beauty, I say that beauty is available and just as easy to appreciate anywhere you choose to see it. I think if life were a deep pit in which we were all constantly plummeting to the bottom, beauty is something that makes us forget we're falling.
Very good poem, Rhet. This is the first of yours I've read, and I'm glad for having done so.
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hey Wall, thank you for commenting, you are absolutely right, it should be purest, not purist, it makes a lot of difference so thanks for pointing that out
I left school at 15, i was pretty good but i hated the school i attended, i was taught by priests, monks and the odd teacher so my education is somewhat limited but lately ive had an insatiable thirst for learning,i started reading some philosophers and i was excited to find that their work answered questions i have been asking myself for years,ive also started to teach myself math as i think they are interlinked..im just beginning to understand so im more than pleased for any critique of this poem as i know it will have some fundamental errors as i dont fully understand it myself
p.s this is one of the very few poems i have written that i think is worth something, the rest are just bullshit..
thanks Wall,I love your thoughts on this poem,especially your deep pit of beauty..
see you soon
rhet
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Hey rhet,
I have a bias for this sort of poems---unexpected and thought-provoking. I like how the ugly is recognized and yet transformed into something that is of beauty. I think the couplet at the end of the poem resonates to my understanding of the world.
I suppose that is why one cannot help respect people who are able to transcend their pain and transform it. In Freudian terms its called sublimation, but i suppose there is more to it. The beauty is the process of the transformation, not in the end product. Hence as you say it: "it is in what we cannot know, not within the acceptance of what we think we do."
Good poem Rhet.
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hey iphios,thank you,
"The beauty is in the process of the transformation, not in the end product"..that makes a lot of sense to me although i find it difficult to tell you how it makes sense other than, It`s within the knowing of exactly why you are transforming something where beauty lies so long as the transformation is for your own good and the common good
MY HEAD HURTS
see you later
rhet
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hey rhet,
i think i get what you are trying to say.
-iphios
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just what's on my heart right now
Rhet,
my pastor said today that God's plan is better than our plan.
and i think the statement in your poem echos this:
"because the purist beauty exists
within the understanding
of what we cannot know
not within the acceptance
of what we think we do"
we can't know God's plan, but know it is good, as He says in Jeremiah 29:10.
ugh. my week/weekend has been the most frustrating all semester.
it seems like i'm failing in all my obligations and responsibilities, despite my greatest efforts.
but as you said, it's expected:
"The world is cruel, unfair and shitty,
It`s ignorant to expect it to be otherwise"
and you're right.
sometimes we need to scream and pull our hair. aggression can be a good thing when it creates positive change. and that's when we're raging against the spiritual forces of darkness.
when we create, we glorify God, simply because we reflect His image of being the creator. so let us make good things.
with that said, i hate depression. it is not beautiful. let's meditate on good things, and write joyous poetry. even when we're sad, praise God. cuz such faith is beautiful.
always,
Pap
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hey Pap,thank you very much..i changed the reference to depression as i feel its an illness that nobody can fully understand as each persons experiences differ,it`s the medical experts who are convincing, lackadaisical and pretentious about the illness who annoy the hell out of me but thats a different story..
i`m pleased the poem worked for you Pap
see you later
rhet
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