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Poll: How many of you Believe in God?


  • Little Feather
    Aug 6 6:51 PM 2005
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    Yes
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  • CookieZeal
    August 6, 2005

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    ..not of normal understanding

    If one hasn’t been called through a circumstance, book, another’s invitation, or any ONE of something (with that small still voice)which is without our control or plan of things-then the headlight, the flashlight…and in simple terms. the “Holy Spirit” is not within, and can’t understand. It’s not a human philosophical thing. It’s outside of us. And there is documentation to show, support and prove it. Being in the ministry doesn’t make me biased. I tell my dear agnostics to not listen to anyone, but to at least take a bible class and read why believers believe;let their eyes fall UPON the words by themselves and see all of 300 or more prophecies that are fulfilled and documented in the bible by men who didn’t know one another until the discipleship of Christ came.
    God is simply love and wants to communicate and most don’t want that. They want to take the creation, and not the Creator.(Romans says they will do that) They want effects, but no beginnings. Until, of course they must work for a living for a salary, have a child to be responsible, and become a parent to have a family. It is also prophesied that man will ‘look’ and see, will feel the wind, but not ‘sense’ the presence, because of the veil of arrogance and self-centeredness we are all born with until our will chooses God’s greater one. Logically,long as we can’t make a banana,or come up with the orderly universe of space, the human body, or a smile that says a million things, we are at a vulneralbility to admit that it had to be another greater. If not, then one must give the ‘other’ reason with still another source of knowledge to support it. Otherwise, as I said first, it has to be a real spiritual experience for anyone to believe and even, then, understanding everything is a by-product of faith, study, craving to know Him in the fullest, and that takes an entire lifetime. A journey with eternity attached is what it promises

    • Nam
      October 15, 2005

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      ‘I tell my dear agnostics to not listen to anyone,’

      They’re your ‘agnostics’?

      Anyway, an ‘agnostic’ is not an ‘atheist’ which seems to me is your implicaton of a ‘non-believer’ of a god. An ‘agnostic’ doesn’t say there isn’t a ‘god’ they just do not state there is one without punitive proof. They believe in the ‘concept’ of there being a deity. Atheists do not believe in neither a concept or venture for any sort of ‘proof’.

      ‘but to at least take a bible class and read why believers believe’

      So, God’s a Christian? Christ wasn’t a Christian but God is? Seems languid.

      ’...and see all of 300 or more prophecies that are fulfilled and documented in the bible by men who didn’t know one another until the discipleship of Christ came.’

      Prophecies have been written in non-biblical scripts and they too have come true, doesn’t mean that there’s some higher power at work, one predicts the future from their present. I could predict the future and I am sure at least a few of the predictions that I could come up with would render true—does that make me godly or spiritually inclined? Neither, just makes me a good predictor.

      ‘understanding everything is a by-product of faith,’

      This doctor on this Christian radio station says:

      “I don’t have to understand the bible, I just have to believe what it tells me.”

      How exactly can you follow something you do not understand? That’s not faith, that’s stupidity. If you do not understand something then why follow it?

      It’s like someone that doesn’t understand a poem yet they say it’s good. How is it good if you didn’t understand it?


      • Little Feather
        October 15, 2005

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        Well

        As far as that Christian Doctor on the radio. I cant Know what he meant but it would seem to me that he misspoke and his words should have said. ‘I may not understand the bible, but I believe in “God” and that he will make it clear to me’. At least that is my standing on it.

        God Bless
        Tammy


        • Nam
          October 15, 2005

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          He didn’t misspeak, he was clear and concise. And he isn’t the first one that is a Christian to have spoken words as those. I have heard many Christians state that they do not understand the bible yet it doesn’t matter to them, they don’t have to, they have faith and that’s good enough. Then why even read the bible?


  • August 7, 2005

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    I have seen nothing that suggests its existence, nor have I seen anything that logically requires it. As such, I don’t think there is anything god-like. It seems rather unlikely to me.


    • September 4, 2005

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      nothing that requires it...

      The implication of stating that you have seen “nothing that requires [a god being]” are that you have never seen humans as insufficient to provide entirely for themselves, by themselves. Going further with this implication, you may expect humans to solve the problem that will inevitable hit us hard on the head with fuel in the next fifty or so years. Humans must, by your implicit expectations, be able to judge, govern, and accord themselves to what is “right” by their own power (if you believe in “right” at all). If you do not believe in “right”, then you cannot believe in “wrong”, and thus can believe their is no condemnation for the rapist, serial killer, opressive authority, etc. But your implicit expectations require that humans somehow solve the “problems” within their infrastructure (that being that invisible yet ever-present and extemporally-binding bond of common existence between all human beings).

      My point is, are human beings really capable of governing ourselves? We have not done it for thousands of years. Correctly, I mean, if correctly is equivalent to sufficiently. For history has proven that wrong-doers have (and do continue) to prevail in different ways, even if that be simply not being judged and punished.

      No wish to get heatedly debating, only discussing.



      • September 10, 2005

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        You misunderstand my point a bit I think…. When I said: ‘Nothing that requires it’, I meant that no phenomenon I’ve seen or experienced has God as it’s only or even as most likely explanation.

        Humans may or may not be able to provide for themselves. As a species, we have so far. As individuals, most would probably be able, in the sense that they wouldn’t die if left on their own.

        The problem with fuel is not all that much of a problem, provided appropriate action is taken. Praying to God to solve it, however, will probably be insufficient.

        Correct me if wrong, but isn’t humanity still here? If so, I can’t see where your point comes from. Of course we’re capable of governing ourselves, we have been doing so for the past few thousand years. Not perfectly, of course, but our species still exists. We have had numerous problems, as a species, for thousands of years, and we have been solving them. This presumes, of course, that there actually is or has been a problem – depends on how you define it.

        I do not believe in an objective right or wrong, no. However, how does that preclude me from condemning a rapist or serial killer? What he does might not be wrong by his standards, but it is by mine. How does that change anything? God’s standards or mine, I can judge by either. There’s nothing magically stamping an action ‘right’ or ‘wrong’, you have to decide on that yourself. It all depends on who’s standards you take.

        If we’re not capable of self-government, what else do you think we have been doing for thousands of years, might I ask? Not every ‘wrong-doer’ needs to be punished for government to be effective, I’d like to add. (effective in doing what, anyway?)


  • Kevin
    August 7, 2005

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    All a question of definition

    For me, I find it amazing that anyone actually believes there is a big guy up there with a beard on a really old looking throne that floats in the clouds somewhere.

    It’s a /metaphor/ – god is love, god is the green grass waving in the wind, and it’s the goodwil that humans and animals show each other.

    To me, that’s why it’s so confusing to people – because they’re caught deciding whether to believe in an obviously fantastical vision (codified in our current bible, which is several people’s intepretation of what god means), and something that has no meaning to them.



    • September 4, 2005

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      Are you saying that he is what each of us interpret him to be?

      And what would you say his purpose is? Unless, you presume him to be purposeless?


      • Gio the Plumber
        October 4, 2005

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        Just look at us; any being that would have created us must be purposeless.


        • October 4, 2005

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          Or just really, really bored.


  • August 7, 2005

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    Nope

    Well actually it’s also a kinda defintion thing with me too… depends on what you mean by god. God in the christian sense isn’t something I believe in at all. I think the whole of idea of god in that sense can easily be explained away. But in the sense of a higher being, well I don’t believe in any benevolent being that created the universe and humanity and guides us at all, but I do accept that I, and the rest of humanity, don’t know enough about dimensional-physics and the rest of the universe/multiverse to say that there are no 5 dimensional super-beings… But I do feel that at this stage of humanity’s technological advancement, it would basically be metaphysics for me to contemplate something like that. And I agree with Nietschze with regards to metaphsyics that knowing about and studying metaphsyics is “as useful as knowing the chemical structure of water is to the sailor facing the raging storm”.


  • August 7, 2005

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    Not the typical God, anyway

    I’m agnostic because I find it rather arrogant of anyone to say they know there is or isn’t a Creator. How could we, mere humans on a ball of rock floating in endless space, ever imagine that we know how we got here? Earth has been here longer than any of us can even imagine. We don’t know if some guy with a beard decided one day He’d make little creatures to play with or if Earth just got lucky. I do believe life is quite miraculous, so that also keeps me away from atheism.


  • August 7, 2005

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    All of you are so sad… it really breaks my heart :’( tears in my eyes just reading your comments I’m praying for you tonight… I dont know why I ever come to read these things…


    • August 8, 2005

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      • headdesk *


    • August 18, 2005

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      i know…it is so sad when people do not believe in God. or atleast something greater than us, our creator…without that i would feel…empty
      agh when everyone says “some guy with a beard” i picture Santa up there ruling us. sheesh.


      • August 22, 2005

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        Not wanting to start a flamewar her, but just for the sake of discussion: why is it sad that people don’t believe in God?

      • Nam
        October 15, 2005

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        ‘or atleast something greater than us,’

        I believe there are ‘things’ greater than me. So, stop feeling saddened over my poor wretched soul. However, I do not perceive that ‘something’ to be a deity.


    • Nam
      October 15, 2005

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      Why is it that, so far from the comments I’ve read from those who say they are ‘agnostic’ and/or ‘atheist’ or just believe in what they believe in—why is it that they aren’t ‘crying’ for you?

      You notice how negative your comment is towards them? You are ‘crying’ for them? Why? If your God, and I am assuming it’s the Christian deity, if your God gave everyone ‘free will’ then why is it that “we” aren’t allowed to use it? Is it not said that even those who do not believe (speaking of the Christian deity upon all) that God still loves them?

      So, why are you weeping for beings that are still loved by your deity even if they have no inclination of loving and/or knowing your deity?

      I think you need to stop weeping and carry on with your life, your prayers will be endlessly futile.

      Perhaps “we” should all hold hands and “pray” for you.


      • Little Feather
        October 15, 2005

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        There you have answered your own question

        So, why are you weeping for beings that are still loved by your deity even if “they have no inclination of loving and/or knowing your deity?”

        you, and by you I mean in the general sense. Do not feel his love. That is why I cry and continue to pray for your souls. Because though you may be loved by the father. He cannot save you from eternal damnation if you do not believe in him. Whether you believe or not, you soul is at stake here. So I cry for the eternal pain your soul shall suffer. And I pray that you will find the father so that you do not have to suffer. And should not a good man/woman have the welfare of his/her brother/sister, neighbor at his/her heart? A basic compassion for all humans?

        God Bless
        Tammy


        • Nam
          October 15, 2005

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          ‘That is why I cry and continue to pray for your souls.’

          That comment wasn’t to you.

          Anyway, don’t cry over my soul, my soul is doing just fine without your deity or religion. Actually I’d commit suicide if I had to be in your religion and if your religion is what is true I hope I burn in an ever-lasting hell.

          You talk about love and prayer yet you spew such negativity towards those that you shouldn’t be spewing anything towards. Perhaps you don’t understand your bible.

          Do you pray in Church? With other people? Did you know if you do not pray in the privacy of your own, that your prayers go unheard. That is what Matthew stated Christ stated, so, while you’re in Church and you pray alongside all your other fellow Christians realize that none of any of your prayers are being heard because you’re not praying alone. Prayers are reserved from one ‘soul’ to the next. This being your soul to Jesus’ soul.

          Flesh and blood, not even inclination of brains are in heaven, souls have no remnant of physical pain, everything is cellestrial—I wonder how that feels pain, huh?

          I think you need to look deep within yourself on whether you’re saved truly or not. You may think you are but you may not be.

          Did you know that one doesn’t have to be baptized by anyone? You can baptize yourself. Yet, so many lies are pushed through the veins of religion in the Christian faith that says otherwise.

          I’ve read the bible, old and new, and Christ speaks no where in it, and certainly not any known deity (or unknown for that matter).

          So, you go on your quest to pray for my soul and everyone elses, in the end, it’ll be futile.

          Good luck in your endeavors.

          And just because I am not a Christian does not make me any more or any less. We all have the same faults and tribulations as the next person.

          You are not better than I yet your words clearly state that as you “pray for me”.

          Pray for yourself. I need not your emptiness upon my life.


  • Incredible Fairy
    August 7, 2005

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    Still deciding

    I’m curious as to what I should believe. I like to think logic and reality is more important. If that’s my instinct, then the god goes right out the window. However, if I believe out of heart and need to believe in a god (base the belief on emotion), I’ll likely end up deciding that god does exist. It depends on what makes me happy and what I feel is the truth. That is yet to come. I shall enjoy reading this.


  • August 7, 2005

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    it all depends

    do i belive in the christian and catholic concept of there being one god, then no. do i belive that the ancients had the right ideas, yes i do, i belive that there is definatly higher powers, whether it be mother earth, the mother goddess or the ancient pantheons of gods and goddesses. and in case if you were wondering, i am a neo-pagan with leanings toward Wicca and the Craft. i wear not the cross of christs suffering, but rather the pentacle, which represents all the aspects of life, earth, air, water, fire and spirt, it is circled by the Uroboros which is the serpent eating its own tail sybolising the never ending nature of life and time. so the short answer to your questions, is yes, i belive in gods and goddesses, just not in the way i think you meant.

    • Nam
      October 15, 2005

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      Who are these ‘ancients’? Are you talking about Stargate Sg-1 .. do you believe you can ascend?


  • August 7, 2005

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    This may come as a suprise...

    But the word God and everything he stands for is a Fashion Statement now and days. I do beleive there is a God, and I do beleive in everything he stands for. That does not mean I approve of his words, his actions or his laws.

    In all honesty I was born to Jewish family, then thrown into a Christian home, then casually dropped into a Catholic church before my mom returned to Christian churches… and if there’s no difference in them you say, I would like to say otherwise.

    The only reason I beleive there is a God is because I follow the word of Satan and clearly there can be no good without it’s typical ‘evil’.
    Period.



    • September 4, 2005

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      Really?

      if TODAY the word “God” is a fashion statement, then so it has been for thousands of years. We are no more nor no less “in” with the “fad” of investigating and hypothesizing about the spiritual realms than any generation before us.

      So you follow the word of Satan. Hm. I’m curious, why do you follow the word of Satan? Even you yourself classify him as evil: “The only reason I beleive there is a God is because I follow the word of Satan and clearly there can be no good without it’s typical ‘evil’.” I’m really curious what drives you to follow him.


    • Nam
      October 15, 2005

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      You do know that Catholics are Christians, right? If you took all the ‘Catholic Christians’ from being ‘Christians’ (a lot of Protestant Christians don’t know or believe that Catholics are Christians—now that’s sad) then that just leaves, estimated, 200 million Christians worldwide.

      So, Muslims rule over the Christians—YAY!!!!

      What exactly is the word of ‘Satan’?


  • Circuitsboard
    August 9, 2005

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    It's all Interpretation

    Each individual enjoys the choice of what they will believe in. Christians call that free will. I once asked my Dad (who was a minister at the time)these questions:
    1) Do you believe in God?
    2) Do you believe he gave us the freedom of choice?
    3) Do you believe that we will go to Heaven or Hell by choosing to believe/not believe?
    4) Do you believe that God is all-knowing?

    He answered “yes” to all four questions.

    I then stated that: If God is all-knowing, then of course you must include that he already knows who is going to Heaven and who is going to Hell. That in itself negates the reward/punishment of Free Will.

    Don’t get me wrong, I once felt a ‘calling’ to be a minister, or more specific, a medical missionary. I was preaching sermons at the age of 14. I have read the Bible cover to cover more than twice.
    Then I studied other religions besides Christianity. (I am part Yankton Sioux, and I still have a deep love of that ‘religion’).
    When studying history, especially the history of the Church and what Men have done in its name, I have no like or love for organised religion, these days. Fact is, it kinda makes me sick.
    But, to each their own.

    For those of you wanting some interesting reading, visit http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com

    Enjoy!



  • August 9, 2005

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    Not an all good god, but a being with a lot of power

    I used to be Christian, but my current philosophy is that although I think there’s a powerful being who has some control over the universe it’s not an all good God.
    I think the world is so powerful, both the beautiful and the strong (and horrible) side of it are so strong that simple science can’t explain it. I also think that there are so many natural (and non-natural) disasters in the world that anything with a great deal of power (for example a god) can’t be all good.
    I’m not sure if that means that there are two or more equally balanced forces in the world that battle between good and evil (which is similar to, although different from Christian belief in the devil) or if there’s an average morality god.


  • August 9, 2005

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    This is a subject near and dear tomy heart, although I don’t discuss it much to too many people. Hmm.. GOD… is he/she/it really out there? it is hard to say, depends on what YOU belive in. I personally feel that there is a “divine” energy out there. now I don’t know if it is something to do with this level of exsitance, or if it exists on another level. But I do feel that there is something out there.(maybe even aliens ) I hold to these basics of faith, Harm none, Be hospitable to all how enter your home, honor kith and kin, and honor the Divine in what every way you find it, and Do Not judge some one else on their faith, whatever they may hold true too, has as much validity as to what ever you belive in. So basicallyWho am I to tell you your wrong for what you belive in, I amy not agree with you but that dosenot make it wrong.

    I thought that this was such a great topic of disccusion. I hae enjoyed the post that everyone has posted.
    Blessings to all
    Krystal



  • August 9, 2005

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    There’s no religion like no religion. Read some Nietzsche.

  • M.A.King
    August 10, 2005

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    I am not a literalist and this puts a separation between my own views and mainstream Christianity. I believe there is a personal God but I feel many of the terms used in scripture (of all religions) are metaphor and parable to make it possible for human understanding. I do not believe there was an apple and a serpent. But I do believe in the insight and lesson behind that example. I do not see a tangible image to God or ‘heaven’. No ‘streets of gold’ or mansions or pit of fire. I think that the spiritual defies human description.
    So my answer is an absolute yes, I believe in a personal God but I doubt my perceptions of Him fit into any box with a label on it.

    • Terry-too
      October 1, 2005

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      Literalists scare me!

      Mary6, after reading them all, I found more similarities with yours. I have had some strange events that left me wondering. I have no other explanation to the lack of fear in a most memorable event that happened a few summers ago. We were moving slowly by pontoon boat over a large lake where two shores on either side were thin blue lines, and both front and back, the sky and water blended into a continuous gray-blue. No horizon line at all.
      .
      We watched black cloud grow to our right until it was obvious by flashes of light within it that we were in for a fright of a thunderstorm. As the only thing higher than wind-chased squalls, totally beyond reaching any shore, we were breaking all the rules. The canvas canopy was held up by the ribs of steel tubing—everyone warns not to be tall on water, and even in the house, not near metal. The rain came down so hard it was punching mist through the canvas, and we could not see the front railing of the boat, or anything else.
      .
      We should have been scared out of our wits. If my friend Mary who is RC had brought her rosary, it might have been handy, but other than lifting our feet up from the water that had soaked the rug, the three of us were not afraid even though simultaneous flash-ripBANGs told us the storm was overhead.
      .
      Oddly, the rain slowed until it stopped, clouds parted leaving darkness to all sides of us, and then, after the dark, the sun was brilliant! It would have been enough, but that was when Mary called out “LOOK! Rainbow!!” Not only that, but it was near the boat, between us and the darkness, in a ring we could see from every window, the brightest rainbow with us in its center. And then it faded, the thunder had moved on beyond us toward the far side, and we had the thudding of heavy raindrops again before it left us soaked but held in its wonder. “In God’s hands,” Mary said.

      Mary and I still talk about it. We have never heard of such an event anywhere. It still is enough to tell me that all things cannot be explained by Science!
      Neither is there anything in the bible to “interpret it for us.” All I know is that we all felt safe.
      .
      Do I believe in God? In spirit, absolutely. Deeply felt in liturgical music, as written by Palestrina and especially by Bach, yes, as we sang in choir, also in the beautiful stillness of evergreen forest, and when alone, in an inner peace I cannot explain or fully describe, certainly yes. I do not need anyone else to teach me, to explain to me, to point me to chapter and verse—indeed I could probably tell them a thing or two. Faith is reality, and a kind of gentle love that pervades all that is. How blessed we are to know it.

      Enough. I do not proselytise or exhort, or make big pious deals of it. It is something that each person has to find alone.


      • M.A.King
        October 2, 2005

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        I read this wonderful story upon returning from church this morning and it was nearly a direct continuation of the sermon in many ways. ‘The hand of God’ is a phrase that I have heard so much lately and I have found that when a profound and inspiring insight is repeatedly put in front of me within a short period of time it takes on the feeling of some message that Someone wants me to take to heart.
        Your story speaks of a spiritual meeting that some may have overlooked or tried to explain away.
        Though I am not so much of a literalist I do believe in miracles. I do believe in the miracles of Christ (water to wine, healing, etc). There seems to be a significant difference to me. There are spiritual things that defy human description and those things, I believe, are painted in metaphors and such. Much like we do when we make up simplistic children’s stories to explain good moral values that they might otherwise not comprehend.

        Thank you for your reply and for sharing this experience with me. It is so amazing how, when we are looking, we can find nuggets of insight and inspiration that seem to be meant for us to find. That is how your story hit me this morning. And this has often been the case with Margaret’s poetry.


  • Nocturne
    August 18, 2005

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    I’m agnostic. But I suppose I believe in something, perhaps in nature, in love, in beauty… but I cannot bring myself to believe in a set code that dictates a truth. How can there be one set code or truth that all the universe bows to? The truth is what you make it. So is life.


  • August 24, 2005

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    As a child I was fasinated with the world of Star Trek.

    The crew of the Enterprise showed surprizing understanding and kindness to almost everyone they encountered. I had a theory that the series creator had at some time encountered a Federation crew that had stumbled back in time and they took him along for a ride and that is where his idea for the stories came about.

    What has this to do with the belief in God? It’s this.

    The stories of Star Trek show a race of beings galavanting around the universe being kind and good. helping where they can and staying away from places they have no right to interfere.

    There are volumes and volumes of Star Trek ‘literature’ that offers moral ideas such as help your neighbors, be fair, etc.

    It makes no more sence to me to believe in the Christian dogmas, and follow thier ways than it does to proclaim my self a Star Fleet Cadet. Even though the idea of being a space cadet is far more appealing to me than being know as a God fearing man.



  • August 26, 2005

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    We Are Given A Choice

    The beauty of the God I worship is knowing that I have been given a choice. I can believe in His Word (Jesus) and the Bible or I don’t have to. My choice is to believe. For me it is something within. It is spiritual and not religious.

    I agree with CookieZeal. It is supernatural and unexplainable by humankind. God chose me, and I choose Him, but He chose me first. For me it’s really that simple.

    I am honored to be one of those chosen long before I was born to have a kinship with Christ. I know the
    “still small voice” within me, and I know it is a righteous voice that calls me to do the will of good (as best I can). I am mortal, GOD is immortal. I believe the Spirit of the Lord is all knowing and all seeing (omniscent). I have witnessed miracles in my life and have no doubt of the glory of a loving and nurtuting God.

    The problem I see is in a name. We call Him by various names but He is still God. He is a Spirit. Kevin is right! We depict God as we choose, for me God is male and female, all and all. He is real in my life and I see his presence in the lives of my family, and know that he is real.

    It has to be felt. It is truly hard to explain.



  • September 12, 2005

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    I believe in God for many reasons. I didn’t start thinking about God till I was about 14/15. When I was a kid I saw this gold light come towards me, but so did my friends. Of course nobody here would even believe me if I told them, they’d obviously believe it to be aliens. It felt nothing like that. I saw the light again, even brighter with a cross in the middle sometime after I started wanting to know God personally. I have you know, I know in my heart what that light was and nobody will ever change my mind because I know I am not crazy because others experienced it with me.

    Now to actually doubt God? What makes people doubt Him whenever it’s obvious that science proves Him? I mean if you look at it in a perspective…why should we prove Him when we have faith? I get all of my stuff from personal experiences, faith, science, ect. I know He’s real and I don’t care what anyone tells me it’s what I believe in. Nobody forced me to believe in Him, I believe on my own.

    If someone was an atheist and switched places with me, I seriously believe they’d start believing in God. I’ve had my doubts I admit it but there’s no other logicial answer.

    Would you rather believe we are monkeys and came from NOTHING? Nothing being PITCH BLACK, nothing in existance at all.

    How did NOTHING put us here to begin with? You cannot create something from nothing.

    And there’s my rant.



    • September 12, 2005

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      “How did NOTHING put us here to begin with? You cannot create something from nothing.”

      How did God get up there, then?


  • Gio the Plumber
    September 15, 2005

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    I can’t believe so many people voted yes. I’ve got some great beachfront property in Kansas for sale for you, too.

    • Little Feather
      September 17, 2005

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      Really

      If you cannot provide any inteligent communication or at the very least your views on this poll, Please do not comment at all. Comments such as yours do nothing to futher debate or provide constructive feedback. I nor anyone on here wish to read such comments. Thank you and have a good day!

      God Bless
      Tammy



  • October 14, 2005

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    Religion!

    The Bible tells us Great is he who sees and believes, but greater is he who doesn’t see and still believes. I for one am a Firm believer in God (Jesus Christ, Holy spirit)etc. You can not force people in to believing in the Lord but because they don’t believe then they are not saved, so, therefore if they are not saved then you can intervine as an intercessor on their behalf to the Lord. Just pray for their souls and that he may open their eyes. Pray that he shows them something that changes their mind. I also believe that if you call upon the Lord(Jesus Christ) you will be heard. The bible tells us that. So come on you guys let’s not argue over this, arguing doesn’t solve anything. Naether does hurting someone’s feelings. Just because some believe and some don’t is no reason fo harsh words. I too tear up for those who don’t believe but have also come to the point that if they have heard the gospel and still don’t believe then I can not change their minds but I thank God that he gave me faith to believe in him. because you have to have that in order to believe in anything. So for everyone in this world whom doesn’t believe instead of arguing with you about I pray for you instead, and that my friend’s is my free will to do so. Yes God gave us free will and that is whole nother ball game.


    • October 14, 2005

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      On the contrary, arguing about this is vital. It forces you to make up your own mind, tests your own arguments and reasons, and will probably help you to understand other people’s.

      If arguing didn’t solve anything, democracy wouldn’t work, you know.


    • Nam
      October 15, 2005

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      You ever read the bible? If you have then you wouldn’t have chosen the name ‘Gods gift of poetry’ as your screen name—or perhaps I’m reading too much into it.


  • October 14, 2005

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    Our minds are made up!

    Arguing is not vital and that is exactly the reason democracy hasn’t worked. As for understanding other peoples views I do understand and I am okay with the fact that they don’t believe. At the same time our views may just make you see and believe. The Bible says he is the way, the truth, and the light. Noone gets to the father except through the son. So if you don’t know the son you will never believe and you haven’t reached the father yet. I will hold to the scripture. If you want to debate that is fine but writing hurtful, smart comments to people isn’t going to change the facts that those who believe will continue to believe and those that don’t shouldn’t try to break someone else’s faith. God Bless and please be respectful to the one’s that do believe it is just good ethics.

    • Nam
      October 15, 2005

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      ‘As for understanding other peoples views I do understand and I am okay with the fact that they don’t believe.’

      Why are you arguing? It solves nothing, you just said it.

      ‘God Bless and please be respectful to the one’s that do believe it is just good ethics.’

      You say he should be respectful to you because you believe yet you’re very disrespectful to him because he has a differing opinion than yours.

      I haven’t read anything where he has insulted anyone, it is you who’s being disrespectful here, not him.


  • Nam
    October 15, 2005

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    Before I could answer such a question you’d have to be more specific in your question; i.e.: what deity are you referring to?

    Are you speaking of your god, are you speaking of ‘my’ god—or that there’s just one omnipresent being out there and neither your god or ‘my’ god exists.

    Just asking ‘Do you believe in God’ doesn’t narrow any formulative answer down, I feel.

    Your question is too vague.


    • Little Feather
      October 15, 2005

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      Purposfully vague

      I want to know if you believe in “God”. However and whomever you see or feel is God. I want to know do you believe in anything at all that is more than yourself

      God Bless
      Tammy


      • Nam
        October 15, 2005

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        And what if I don’t? Am I any less of a person than the one who does? Is the one who believes in a deity more good than the one who doesn’t?

        Do you think one who believes in your deity or any other deity would be more happy within themselves more so than if they didn’t believe in anything at all?

        Do you believe that one must be in a total depressive state all the time if they don’t believe in a deity?

        I don’t believe you were ‘purposfully’ vague, I just think you were vague.

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