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Looking for more critique and less ego stroking


  • Cvillelisa
    Jul 25 3:01 AM 2006
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    Hi.

    I've been a member of AllPoetry for years.  I've been really working on improving.  I'm growing weary of all diary entry stuff being called poetry there.  The "you are brilliants" the stroking and the tender egos when an honest crit is handed out.  I've tried a few other sites -- but haven't yet found a place that works for me  I'm looking for honest discussion here -- and I'm not sure this is where this post should even go but

    how is this place going?  Are there enough people reading and critting here?  (I'm thinking 5-10 people on a consistent basis is all I'm really looking for to give valuable crits).

    Thanks and my apologies if this should be posted elsewhere.

    Lisa  

  • Stressful Event
    July 25, 2006
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    In total agreement!

    Dear Lisa,

    You have no idea how happy I am to read your strong and felt "catharsis".
    In these last days I have been criticised for being "harsh", "arrogant"
    and "cruel" in writing my critiques, when I am simply trying to be serious
    here. There was even one sweet Celestial Pie who suggest me to look for
    another site on the Internet... This is the actual cruel thing: "if you
    do not fit in mediocrity, you should change yourself, that's your problem,
    nout ours, the majority's...". I do understand your point of view and if
    I am not going to distinguish what it is Poetry from what it is not (my God,
    what an awful role!), at least I may assess each text according to my
    own standards, I suppose. Possibly you may even not agree with the way
    I express myself, but believe me when I say I am not trying to form a party
    in here... Intelectual Barbara has already build up a theory in which she
    explores the labelling of a group she hardly understands, by calling them
    "Trolls"... this is sad and totally opposite to Poetry. The "poor he/she",
    "too-much constructive" style does not suit me, I am proud to say. If I am
    to improve, I won't fear it. Let's be sincere. There is very good work here:
    Man of Harlech, Derek Rabideau, GnosisonG - have you ask them for their
    critiques? I must say they are very valuable and... sincere, yes, sincere.
    Last, but no the least, I'm really enjoying your poetry and, I hope you don't
    mind, but you will receive a critique of my own as soon as possibe (I've
    been thinking on it). A big hug, Custodio Maia Thalassos-Bettencourt.

    • Terry-too
      July 26, 2006
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      So why did you block me, C M?

      Quite unnecessary.  Really.

      It is very hard to critique a poem where no reply-box exists.  Is it still enforced?  I did not check.

      I thoroughly enjoyed your negative commentary on one of mine, found it refreshing for exactly the reasons Lisa set forth here.  

      It actually made me think, (rare as that may be) and to accept things I had not noticed.  I told you why I enjoyed your views, and when I read one of yours, rather liked it.  I had some small observations about it which might have run counter to your views--the way they should, --but there was no box.  

      I discovered I was being "ignored."

      It did save me time, as ever in short supply, so no harm done.  

      The pedantic old crone,
      Terry

      PS--Other readers, please, no notes of support, in the unlikely event someone may try.  I have no quarrel here, no dismay, not blaming, not needed.  
      I support the courage to be honest.

      T
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