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No, no. I'm just curious why it's considered so wrong and bad. I read once in a book that suicide in compensation for another sin is just a worse sin, but if there's truly nothing left in life to be joyful about, is it still so horrible? I guess ... you only have one life, but what if it's a really terrible life? Is suicide still a ... an option?
And talking about suicide reminds me of cutting. Why is that so bad? Er, besides hurting your own body. If you know your limit of withstanding pain and not to cross that limit, shouldn't it still be okay in a sense? And I've heard that talking out the problems is an alternative, but what if it still hurts after you talk it out, when pain is the only "escape"? ... Then what?
Curiosity getting the better of me : P
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From a non-religious perspective:
Often times it is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. Yes, the pain and problem may not seem temporary - but if you off yourself, then there is no opportunity for anything better. Many times, suicide is considered as an option by a teen when the issues s/he faces are rather laughable (not at the time, of course) and very temporary. Offing yourself because you have no friends in middle school or your ex was nasty to you and told everyone your innermost secrets isn't really a good reason. But under the influence of hormonal changes that a teen goes through, it can seem like a literal end of the world.
Even when the issues are real - abuse, for example - there are other alternatives which may take more strength, but ion the long run result in happiness rather than a grave. If it's child abuse, there are help organizations, and if worse comes to worst, there is growing up and leaving the house at 17. In modernized countries, there is nearly every opportunity for a person to remove oneself from a painful situation, though yes, there are extenuating circumstances which might make it seem impossible or pointless. Key word: seem.
But yes, you're right. It is a complicated issue.
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Okay, that's reasonable.
I know hope is like a bright light in a dark tunnel of .. "hopelessness", but say someone is deaf, blind, and dumb and to an extent has no hope, would living on modern medication and hooked up to a machine as a vegetable for the rest of their lives be better than euthanasia? (wow that was off topic XD) -
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How about a post-apocalyptic world where radiation has completely wiped out five sixths of all vegetation and animal life and humans are living in small communities called "cabals". Less than .001% of water is left on earth and the children that are born are mutated almost to an inhuman degree and cannot take care of themselves. What then?
The reason I jotted that down is that it's always possible to find a "What if" that leads to something being perfectly reasonable. However, the theoretical exception will not suddenly prove a point. It's just a theoretical exception.
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Okay. :}
Er, I'm still curious though. Why are some people scornful of those who cut themselves or those who ... ponder suicide?
Thanks for answering : P
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Although there are plenty of people that cut because of true, legitimate emotional problems, cutting has become developed its own little sub-culture that is sometimes divorced from any true emotional strife. I think that many people dismiss all cutters as this type of cutter.
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Oh ... okay that makes sense.
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And some people are just scared of what they don't know. Just like people add a stigma to anything else , they add it to suicide and cutting. I mean, in some ways it can be a pretty scary topic of discussion, though I'm pretty comfortable with sharing my thoughts.
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Hmnn. Now that I think of it, it does seem kind of scary. Didn't think about it like that.
Another question ... is it still considered cutting if the wound(s) don't bleed? Or is that like ... scratching or something?
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good question. i've always wondered that too. im told that in my state, if you cut in school you are required to be evaluated and possibly put in a psych hospital...but supposedly only if you bleed... so maybe it's not? i don't know.
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Psych hospital ... eep. I wrote about cutting once for a project in science and my teacher got really concerned and asked me if I needed help and to see her.
Well ... I'll try to find out. Actually I just looked up cutting on google and it said that "Injuring yourself on purpose by making scratches or cuts on your body with a sharp object — enough to break the skin and make it bleed — is called cutting." So I guess you have to bleed to be cutting.
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yes, well adults in positions of authority, such as teachers are obligated to look into these kind of matters... for the safety of their students and what not. it's pretty important that they have to do that, if you ask me. it helped me out a lot.
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I suppose that's true.
Actually I have another questions again. Is committing suicide cowardly? Or considered cowardly in any way?
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Some people think it is. I don't. It's deifintely an escape, but it's not as easy as people think. It's a hard decision to make and execute. I definitely don't condone it, no matter what the situation. It's not the "right" way out in my opinion. Life can definitely suck, and I've seen my share of horrible times, but there's always some way out of it, other than suicide...but it's hard. There were a lot of times that I wished people would just let me kill myself because I didn't think I could ever feel better. But I do. I feel amazing. Life feels amazing in a way it never has before, not for me. So if all your curiosity is coming from and urge to commit suicide, don't follow through with it. Someone once told me that you only no "so far." How things have been or gone so far...but for all you know, tomorrow could be better. And sometimes it takes a lot of tomorrows and a lot of hard work. But it's worth it.
If that's not where you're curiosity comes from...sorry for the lecture. Though it's not meant as a bad thing. Just sharing some of my experience. -
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Er, not exactly. I have a friend who talks about suicide a lot ... though one time I regretted not getting hit by a car, but then again I didn't want to die at the hands of modern technology. Wait, never mind.
Ehm, is cutting bad, too, then? As a way out of ... say stress or the like.
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Well, it's certainly not considered healthy. It's not a great way to relieve stress. Actually, it can be a pretty big alarm going off telling you something is wrong. I've definitely done it...and man, it's like an addiction when you get into that kind of thing...better off never having started. By the time you realize what it's done to you, it's already too late for an easy come back. Plus then adults get all over your case and it's a real pain, but it's just because they care. Yeah, not a good way to handle things. There are other techniques out there, it's all about finding which one is right for you.
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Yeah ... it IS kind of like an addiction. Especially if you don't have sharp objects. Er.
So ... if you cut, is it because you can't find another way out? Or is it like ... an impulse thing?
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Both, or rather, it depends. I can start with not having a way out and turn into an impulse.
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*nods faintly*
Thanks for answering all my questions :}
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No prob. I'm always here to answer things I know about, think I know about, would like to think i know about, need to find out about...etc.
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Alright. Thank you :}
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