women have a word
for other women
who really like sex
they call them whores
but what's really bugging them
is that 'whores'
give it away
(even though the title suggests
they'd always make you pay)
anyway
that's not on
for sex is currency
among women
wives and mistresses
all over the world
know the value
of witholding it
as a means of getting
their way
and they'll happily
refrain from it
when they'd really like some
and indulge in it
when they wouldn't
as a means to an end
there's no denying this
so my question is
who are the greater
whores?
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double edged
it comes down to the double standard in my mind .... for instance why are men called stud, pimps ...ect. while women are called sluts & whores? ... i say cut out the middle man and just pay 4 it upfront... cut& dry ... no fuss no muss
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Are promiscuous women whores or studs?
Hey Teddy. Thanks for stopping by. Despite the pic, this isn't really about the cash-transaction-sort of 'whore' (see the discussion with Saltaire for clarification) But the 'promiscuous man = 'stud' v. promiscuous woman = 'whore' issue is on the money. And women allow themselves to subscribe to that nonsense by misusing the word 'whore'. >W<
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As for the the writing it was very good.
As for content...
I'm sure you have a lot of males who would agree here. I would offer a different analysis. When one group is put in a position of powerlessness it is natural for them to find some way to manipulate cicumstances, to gain some control over their lives. If women use their bodies to leverage some power it is probably because male-dominated society has made it necessary.
Men like it this way. It means they always win. It's easier to pay for sex than to earn the love and respect that an equal relationship demands. It allows them to continue to be bastards (because there's no need to repect the humanity of someone you are paying)and then turn around and say, "What is your problem? Don't I give you EVERYTHING?"
So, my question would be, would there be any 'whores' if men didn't pay for sex?
Final word here. I think the poem works well because it challenges us to think and respond.
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Sex is currency
Hey David. Thanks for checking this one out and glad it stimulated the ol' thought processes. Really I never intended it to focus on professionals, more on ordinary women who might have a high sex drive or be considered promiscuous but are tagged the same as the 'professionals' whose motives are, one way or another, primarily mercenary.
The main point here is that women use sex as currency because they CAN because, by enlarge, they control the supply and the censure of 'loose' women by their peers might well be considered to have more than merely moral motivation. And if you check out the response of some of the LADIES below, I think you'll find they agree.
Anyway, God bless them all and thanks for stopping by! >W<
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This poem was so true. I really enjoyed reading it.
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I still love this poem and catch myself flipping back to it just to read it again. Just thought you might want to know. I have rated it again. I hope this isn't against the rules but it is so good...
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an eye-opener.
in my world where the word whore is abhorred (i'm a born again christian), i have never particularly thought about women as their own particular brand of whores...but, now that you presented this poem, i can say that every woman who is sexually active and even those that are not, have done some whoring in their lives...so, is this a bad thing? hmmm...i am undecided on that...but, then again, i think maybe not...whoring is not a bad thing because the world would ceased evolving without it...besides, i don't believe whoring is solely a woman's "virtue"...men also do this once in a while
thanks for the delightful read, john...as always, you never fail to throw water on us people who go about our lives completely unaware about some things..
kudos,
leigh
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Double Standards
Hi Leigh and thank you for this really thoughtful review. This poem got me in lots of trouble here in Catholic Ireland which really surprised me as I thought we'd left the Dark Ages well behind. Apparently we're just getting to grips with a new Dark Age of Polical Correctness.
I'm gratified but no way surprised at how up front female readers like yourself have been in confessing that the behaviours I describe here go on all the time. I don't mean this poem to have any real venom in it, I love ALL the foibles of your wonderful gender and of course you're right, men get up to just as bad (can't nail one behaviour down straight away, but I'm certain we do) and in any case, this behaviour is caused by men's unrealistic demands about how female sexuality may be manifested ( the ol' 'angel in the kitchen and a tigress in the bedroom' thing) so like there's no way anybody's going to get it right with this. No harm recognizing it though. I'm so glad you seem to agree. Thanks again. >W<
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rareness
as long as there are clients will be whores.
women should have some whore gene to survive if dont there
wouldnt be women anymore.
There are a lot of different whore styles...I think once you own your lfe to a man...you beacame a whore.
I still cant understand why a person should be paying for sex!!!
...and its better to pay if you ll treat someone as a whore...
than treat a woman as a whore and then left her!!!!
Interisting view.
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Family values
Hi Ludmilla. I think the new take on the word 'whore' ( like 'corporate whore' for instance) shows how the term has become adulterated in its sexual sense. There is certainly more 'whoring' done in the typical nuclear family setting than we'd ever like to recognize). Thanks for the comment. >W<
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This was fantastic.
It is human nature to indulge in sex, and you note a pattern with women using it as a "means to an end" and I feel that is brilliant. My own views aside, the poem had a provoking and insightful tone to it, especially since the word "whore" has such a harsh and negative connotation (in contemporary society, of course). You challenge the audience with probably the most unique rhetorical question I have ever read in a poem: who uses sex the best: the "whores" or the real whores? It's the opposite of a generic poem, and I really like the direction you took with it. It forced me to be an active reader, and I like that a lot.
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Different result.
Hi R. and thanks for this enthusiastic endorsement. I love to feel I made a reader think or take a different slant on something so I really count your comment 'a result'. Thanks again. >W<
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hey john
precisily! thats why we need more whores, to drive the market down. that'll teach my old lady to hold out on me.
one thing though is the pic. which depicts a prostitute. theres a difference though whores don't do it money, which is the point of your poem.
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Whores = Prostitutes.
Hey Professor, 'whores' may indeed have come to simply mean 'sluts' or 'nymphomaniacs' or just 'women of loose morals' but it is in fact an old English word for prostitute and the pic was carefully chosen to reaffirm that point (otherwise my little ditty is without pretext and we couldn't have THAT) Thanks for stopping by as always. >W<
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Well, I think there is no denying that women use sex as a means of control and/or power. My favorite part is "for sex is currency
among women", ha, that is true. The picture you added is also, very funny. Another favorite part "women have a word for other women
who really like sex they call them whores". This was quite an entertaining piece of poetry. Reminds me of buk, although I don't think he would have been so nice when talking about women
People shouldn't feel sorry for the females alleged "disadvantages" in this world, for we have sex
Good write.
-Kitten
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Sorry?
Hey Kitten, feel sorry for women? Any man who actually believes that MEN are in the driving seat in this life needs his head examined. Thanks so much for reading and for the enthusiastic feedback. >W<
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Hey Wind,
(IMHO) Whores are greater because you dont HAVE to shag `em,you dont HAVE to make love with your woman/girlfriend/wife either but if you live with her its a good idea to,otherwise you both end up detesting each other even more...I cant think of a single woman who doesn`t "whore it",certainly none of the women that i have lived with but i`m quite sure they exist somewhere,i`m also quite positive they wouldn`t be interested in me..
Enough of that,your poem is great,i had no clue as to how you would end it but i`m delighted you ended it with that question
I think this is one of your best that I have read,it kept me enthralled throughout
rhet
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Hi Rhet. Thought this might appeal to your Bukowskian sense of humour and poetry. Thanks for stopping by. >W<
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Bravo!
You nailed this one on the head, that's for sure! Whores (or any female) can use sex as a bargaining tool, a way to get it over with as you say, or to buy that new pair of shoes they've been wanting for so long. You put this so well. You expressed the idea of how females can use sex to their advantage exceptionally well. This poem is close to perfection.
Birdie
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Gender traitor!
Hey Birdie, it's great to have one the sisters endorse this and not try and hang some twisted feminist bullshit on it. We men are left simply aghast and often horrified at the female of the species' 'control' in these matters (as you may have noticed, we're not the best at the 'control' thing!)
Thanks for the great comment. >W<
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